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VC Outlook for 2008: Bubble Looming but Focusing on Fundamentals

This is a re-cap of DealMaker Media | Strategy Series - VC Outlook for 2008 on December 5, 2007.

MODERATOR: Harold DeGraff, Partner, Perkins Coie

PANELISTS: Duncan Davidson, Managing Director - VantagePoint Venture Partners
Rob Hayes, Partner - First Round Capital
Jim Long, Partner - Gabriel Venture Partners
Will Price, Managing Director – Hummer Winblad

 

Social networking was discussed in length, but the panel felt money would not go to yet another social network. Instead, Will Price focused on adjacent areas such as analytics (he frequently cited Hummer’s investment in Omniture). He spoke enthusiastically about the rich information mining capabilities promised by the opening of the social graph and the possibilities social networks offer to finally explore these inter-connections between people first discussed 40 years ago when Stanley Milgram did his "Six degrees of Separation" experiments at Harvard in 1967. Will mentioned the study of churn rates for cell phone users and how a friend leaving a network has a direct measurable probability on that of anothers’. Vodaphone and O2 are reaping the benefits of such “social-churn” analytics. Also, mentioned was the ability to identify influencers and trend mavens a la The Tipping Point in order to better target customer segments. There is a wait-and-see mentality on whether Google’s OpenSocial initiative will be the key to opening the social graph for these types of analyses. Duncan tentatively cautioned over-analysis of data in making advertising decisions.

 

There was consensus that online advertising potential still remains untapped. However, the VCs felt companies generating page views were over-valued (they cited RockYou and Flixster). The thought is such businesses will never be able to monetize via ad-revenue effectively due to poor targeting capabilities and lack of control of the appropriateness of the content. The anecdote given: Coca-Cola does not want to advertise against a slideshow of someone killing a cat. Cited was the case this summer of advertisers such as Vodafone, Virgin and Prudential pulling out of Facebook after their ads were displayed against content by the British National Party (Nazi Party in the UK). The emphasis instead was on companies that offer greater interactivity and measure on total time spent instead of page views. A gentleman from Newsgator cited his business as an example of effectively monetizing online advertisement.

 

To sum it up, the panel felt that while a bubble was looming, as evidenced by hyper valuations (that the VCs themselves are driving), they are still focused on investment fundamentals like cash-flow b-e and customer growth that start ups can produce in a consistent and predictable manner.

Published Monday, December 10, 2007 3:10 AM by Beti Cung

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Lynda Ting said:

To augment my colleague’s re-cap , there was lively discussion about topics other than social networking

December 19, 2007 12:50 PM
 

Rocco DIBenardo said:

I beg to differ with this consensus. Hairflix.com is building the true social commerce model.Using the Beauty Industry as our model. Hairflix  is enabling  the social interaction of daily in salon customers with beauty professionals  seeking professional recommendation both online and off line. The information shared gives direction for both service choices and product recommendation and rewards all involved to share in revenues generated by our strong e-commecre solution This model is combined with sensible and targeted marketing strategies. I agree that many so called s-commerce sites have limited growth potential because of their focus in only one vertical market. Social commerce is constant evolution of  multifaceted aspects of community combined with technological Know how and the mastery and knowledge of ones market.

Each aspect of the social marketing equation must be integrated slowly and effectively to achieve the right formula of content,community and commerce. Hairflix has gone from Beta 1.0 to 2.0 in under 2 years.In 2008 we will undergo our 3rd revision to achieve all the right elements to finally qualify us as True social-commerce.

Stay tuned!!!

January 6, 2008 12:02 AM

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About Beti Cung

I am a Business Development Manager on the Microsoft Emerging Business team. Most recently, I managed large-scale web projects for Williams-Sonoma Inc. and served as Technology Director at eStyle, a VC-backed multi-channel retail startup. Previously, I was an independent consultant for Qualcomm, Netcom Online Communications and Sema Group Spain and UK. I hold a bachelor with honors in Economics from Harvard University and an MBA from INSEAD in France.
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I am a Business Development Manager on the Microsoft Emerging Business team. Most recently, I managed large-scale web projects for Williams-Sonoma Inc. and served as Technology Director at eStyle, a VC-backed multi-channel retail startup. Previously, I was an independent consultant for Qualcomm, Netcom Online Communicati...

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